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Episode 12

Published on:

11th Feb 2021

Trusting Trust

In this episode we’re going to wrestle with the concept of trust. We realize that at times it’s harmful, but we’ll look at how it can help us do life better as well. Yea, no easy answers, here, but we never said that there were, did we? As always, our conversation will be rogueish, and we’ll weave in our core values of seeking wisdom, applying  the “why’s” and, as always, we’ll share a mystic MacNugget. Once again, “It’s strap in time…”  

“Namaste, all of you beautifully, exotic cocktails…

Manifesto points to consider:

  • Together is Typically Better.
  • Wisdom lets the wise, eternal self out of the cage.
  • Because if you change your mind, you change your life.

The Setup: Trust is what, exactly…?

Confidence, assurance, reliance

Trust vs. Faith. Faith is a noun(having). Trust is a verb(doing).

Fiat currency. The irony of “In God We Trust” on our currency. “Backed by the full faith credit of The United States.”

The Sirens. Lured by lack of discernment.

How do we reverse the overall contemptuous attitude we have toward one another?

The deep dive/takeways:

Trust in:

A Deity/Universe, and are they the same?

  • Natural laws vs theological laws/truths

Government/Social contract


  • Earned trustworthiness. Just do it!
  • Biblical story of the invalid and his tribe.   


  • Vulnerability 
  • Innate      
  • Conscience
  • Intuition
  • True self

Can we trust our hearts?

Learning to trust aids in decisiveness, maturity, and strength of character.


“Trust each moment to take you where you need to go.” -Tama Kieves

Links to some of the stuff in the episode:

  • Connected. The hidden science of everything. On Netflix.
  • The Chosen. Great miniseries on Jesus as he calls his disciples. Great depiction of the invalid and his four friends.
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About the Podcast

The WizeGuys
Going rogue in pursuit of wisdom.
A cosmic exhale—it’s what we all yearn for. Mac and Stu are a couple of WizeGuys with decades of experience in navigating the nuances of life as entrepreneurs, family men, coaches, mentors, facilitators, thought leaders, masters of relationship, and contemplative mystics. Join with them as they apply an eclectic approach to life, centered around the concept of cultivating wisdom. They will help you build discernment through the art of asking the “whys”, and by showing that going rogue is the only way to break free of the biases that keep us from doing it just a little bit better.

They realize that what got us here is not going to get us there. Take a journey with them where you’ll experience ah-ha moments stimulated by their conversation that’s filled with wit, candor, vulnerability, and always seasoned with right amount of the mysterious. We’re all exotic cocktails, and learning to celebrate our wonderful uniqueness as we build oneness is the perfect recipe for crafting a better world for everyone.

Mac is The Maverick and Stu is The Maestro. Blending those perspectives in an almost magical way to get after it and call it out will show you how together is better. They’ll use the events of the day to practically apply a roguish blend of modern perspective and timeless wisdom sagacity. Seeking clarity over certainty changes everything. You want some of that? Then relax, enjoy, and engage. Oh...and make sure that you strap in…

About your hosts

Larry (Mac) McDonald

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Mac's the Maverick. He's well known for blurring the edges and going into the grey. On top of being an entrepreneur, he's a speaker, thought leader, avid hiker, Papa, and passionate community volunteer. Not one to follow the "heard", be prepared for him to call it as he sees it as well as applying just a hint of the mystical to keep you guessing. Strap in...
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John (Stu) Stulak

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Stu’s the Maestro. Not only is he a family man, software company owner, and wrestling coach, but he has a natural ability to expertly orchestrate everything he does, from relationship building to coaching to group dynamics. And let's not forget that he'll keep Mac from straying too far afield as he applies a nuanced touch to the conversation. You'll love him...
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