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Episode 19

Published on:

1st Apr 2021

The Ugh

This episode is an UHG! Yep, it’s all about experiencing, sitting with, working our way through, and finding a new way to live in spite of the circumstances. Not sure if this is strap in or lay down on the couch!” Maybe both!

And, as always, our conversation will be roguish, and we’ll weave in our core values of seeking wisdom, applying  the “why’s” and, as always, we’ll share a mystic MacNugget. Let’s get at it…

Hey Stu…

“Namaste, all of you beautifully, exotic cocktails…

 Manifesto points to consider:

  • Together is better.
  • Wize gives you permission to sometimes not give a shit.
  • Wise goes beyond what happens to what matters.

THE SETUP-The Ugh. Cultivate the poise for whatever is coming. It’s all about quality of life.

Get clinical help when appropriate!

Degrees of UGH:

  • Out of your order at the restaurant
  • Check engine light comes on.
  • Tree falls on your house.
  • Dog gets sick.
  • Lose a job.
  • You get sick.
  • A relationship ends.
  • You lose a loved one.

Into the grey-not necessarily through it.

More than zero.

We can’t grid everything. Just know one thing; it’s our ability to navigate the unknowns that makes all the difference.

Staring into The Abyss.

What does reentry look like after the ugh takes you out?


Eventually, you need to crawl out from under the circumstances. -Mac

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About the Podcast

The WizeGuys
Going rogue in pursuit of wisdom.
A cosmic exhale—it’s what we all yearn for. Mac and Stu are a couple of WizeGuys with decades of experience in navigating the nuances of life as entrepreneurs, family men, coaches, mentors, facilitators, thought leaders, masters of relationship, and contemplative mystics. Join with them as they apply an eclectic approach to life, centered around the concept of cultivating wisdom. They will help you build discernment through the art of asking the “whys”, and by showing that going rogue is the only way to break free of the biases that keep us from doing it just a little bit better.

They realize that what got us here is not going to get us there. Take a journey with them where you’ll experience ah-ha moments stimulated by their conversation that’s filled with wit, candor, vulnerability, and always seasoned with right amount of the mysterious. We’re all exotic cocktails, and learning to celebrate our wonderful uniqueness as we build oneness is the perfect recipe for crafting a better world for everyone.

Mac is The Maverick and Stu is The Maestro. Blending those perspectives in an almost magical way to get after it and call it out will show you how together is better. They’ll use the events of the day to practically apply a roguish blend of modern perspective and timeless wisdom sagacity. Seeking clarity over certainty changes everything. You want some of that? Then relax, enjoy, and engage. Oh...and make sure that you strap in…

About your hosts

Larry (Mac) McDonald

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Mac's the Maverick. He's well known for blurring the edges and going into the grey. On top of being an entrepreneur, he's a speaker, thought leader, avid hiker, Papa, and passionate community volunteer. Not one to follow the "heard", be prepared for him to call it as he sees it as well as applying just a hint of the mystical to keep you guessing. Strap in...
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John (Stu) Stulak

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Stu’s the Maestro. Not only is he a family man, software company owner, and wrestling coach, but he has a natural ability to expertly orchestrate everything he does, from relationship building to coaching to group dynamics. And let's not forget that he'll keep Mac from straying too far afield as he applies a nuanced touch to the conversation. You'll love him...
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