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Episode 17

Published on:

18th Mar 2021

Root vs Fruit

In this episode we’re simply giving you the formula for life. Ha, you didn’t think it was possible, did you?! Get out your notepad…time to go to the “school of unlearning”…

And, as always, our conversation will be roguish, and we’ll weave in our core values of seeking wisdom, applying  the “why’s” and, as always, we’ll share a mystic MacNugget. Here we go… “It’s strap in time…with maybe a bit tighter cinch.”  

“Namaste, all of you beautifully, exotic cocktails…

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 Manifesto points to consider:

  • A life spiritualized is a life simplified(and one beyond all other!)
  • Wize gets used to different.
  • Wize uncovers your adventures in missing the point.
  • Wise knows that Namaste will change the world.


Mac tells the “Spiritual Gifts” story.

We need to learn to concentrate on the fruit-the effect of something more basic. Otherwise it's an adventure in missing the point.

If we get the root right, then these winsome, world changing character qualities appear like fruit in an orchard:

THE FRUIT:      

  • Affection for others,
  • Exuberance about life.
  • Serenity.
  • A willingness to stick with things.
  • A sense of compassion in the heart.
  • A conviction that a basic holiness permeates things and people. (Namaste)
  • We find ourselves involved in loyal commitments.
  • Not needing to force our way in life.
  • Able to marshal and direct our energies wisely.

So, what is the root? The Spirit!

Do you want a life like that?


“Live, animated and motivated by The Spirit” -Paul of Tarsus

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About the Podcast

The WizeGuys
Going rogue in pursuit of wisdom.
A cosmic exhale—it’s what we all yearn for. Mac and Stu are a couple of WizeGuys with decades of experience in navigating the nuances of life as entrepreneurs, family men, coaches, mentors, facilitators, thought leaders, masters of relationship, and contemplative mystics. Join with them as they apply an eclectic approach to life, centered around the concept of cultivating wisdom. They will help you build discernment through the art of asking the “whys”, and by showing that going rogue is the only way to break free of the biases that keep us from doing it just a little bit better.

They realize that what got us here is not going to get us there. Take a journey with them where you’ll experience ah-ha moments stimulated by their conversation that’s filled with wit, candor, vulnerability, and always seasoned with right amount of the mysterious. We’re all exotic cocktails, and learning to celebrate our wonderful uniqueness as we build oneness is the perfect recipe for crafting a better world for everyone.

Mac is The Maverick and Stu is The Maestro. Blending those perspectives in an almost magical way to get after it and call it out will show you how together is better. They’ll use the events of the day to practically apply a roguish blend of modern perspective and timeless wisdom sagacity. Seeking clarity over certainty changes everything. You want some of that? Then relax, enjoy, and engage. Oh...and make sure that you strap in…

About your hosts

Larry (Mac) McDonald

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Mac's the Maverick. He's well known for blurring the edges and going into the grey. On top of being an entrepreneur, he's a speaker, thought leader, avid hiker, Papa, and passionate community volunteer. Not one to follow the "heard", be prepared for him to call it as he sees it as well as applying just a hint of the mystical to keep you guessing. Strap in...
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John (Stu) Stulak

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Stu’s the Maestro. Not only is he a family man, software company owner, and wrestling coach, but he has a natural ability to expertly orchestrate everything he does, from relationship building to coaching to group dynamics. And let's not forget that he'll keep Mac from straying too far afield as he applies a nuanced touch to the conversation. You'll love him...
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